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The Beacon

Volume 31 Number 05 June/July 2001

The Official Newsletter of the Saanich Peninsula Squadron

A Unit of Canadian Power and Sail Squadrons

Commander Cdr Greg Nutt 656-4212

Executive Officer Lt/Cdr Diana McBratney 656-4590

Training Officer Lt/Cdr John Hudson 655-3653

Asst. Training Officer 1st Lt Sita Pillay 656-5675

ATO — Chief Instructor 1st Lt Doug Mitchell 656-2959

Treasurer 1st Lt Jim Dawson 658-8204 --

Secretary 1st Lt Paulette Nutt 656-4212

Membership Officer 1st Lt Cathy Campbell 656-5717

Supply Officer 1st Lt Ron Townshend 655-3365

Editor, Beacon 1st Lt Heather Pepper 656-8101

Student Cruise Captain 1st Lt Martin Russell 652-5543

Archivist P/Cdr Stephen Denroche 656-6177

Communications Officer 1st Lt Jackie Levi 656-3420

Webmaster 1st Lt Peter Payer 652-1682

Environment Officer 1st Lt George Winn 472-2219

MAREP Officer 1st Lt Kit Raetsen 544-2026

Port Captain 1st Lt Gay Miller 656-5190

Past Commander P/Cdr Ken Reeves 655-3602 --

Meetings of the Bridge will be held on the third THURSDAY of each month at 1930 in the Sidney North Saanich Yacht Club, except July and December. All members are welcome to attend. Information for The Beacon should be in the hands of the Editor by the 15th of the month.

The Beacon will also be published on the Squadron web page:

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Commander’s Comments

May you live in interesting times, an old Chinese curse,

Well it looks like interesting times ahead. With bridge positions still vacant, and national proposing a money grab, the year is off to a roaring start.

Fortunately, this bridge seems quite capable of dealing with interesting times.

I am very lucky to have so many talented and dedicated people helping guide the way.

Speaking of dedicated, Bob and Mo have returned and promptly offered to take on the task of social cruise directors. Great to have you on board!

I would like direction from the members on a way to proceed with the proposed money grab by national. The input from the Bridge, and my own feelings, tell me that if national keeps putting programs like the boat pro and VHF Licensing into effect without consulting us at Squadron level, they should not look to Squadrons to bail them out. Your comments would be appreciated.

On a lighter note, I am looking forward to working with the bridge and facing the challenges and the fun together.

Hope to see you all on the water this season.

Safe boating!

Greg Nutt

Editors Comments

Hello Member’s as you probably noticed this is an unusual issue, as it is a June / July combination. This is because it is, regrettably, the last issue that I can produce as Editor/Publisher. I have accepted an Assistant Manager’s promotion within the Royal Bank, and will be transferring to the Burnside and Tillicum Branch. This is a pilot and developmental role that I will be unconditionally committed too. As a result of this fantastic opportunity, I do not believe that I will be able to produce timely, and quality issues, should I attempt to fulfill both responsibilities.

I will be happy to support my successor in any way, in order that the Beacon be continued without interruption. Please seriously consider this Bridge position, it is a creative and fun role for anyone who loves the computer, or would like to get to know theirs. The program we use is Publisher, and all templates are already formatted.

Thank-you Kim for all your patience, and assistance in the past year and a half. Thanks again to the Squadron for your contributions and support.

Heather Pepper

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Coming Events!

JUNE 1~3 - Sidney By The Sea celebrates Community Spirit Week.

JUNE 1~10 - CISM Military World Sailing Championships 2001 in Victoria.

JUNE 2 - Sidney/Anacortes International Boat Race (SAIBR).

JUNE 4~28 - Mill Bay Ferry Service will be suspended to re build the 50 yr old docks and repair the 44 yr old MV Mill Bay.

JUNE 16 - HELP Posties Stamp Out Hunger, Mustard Seed Food Drive

JUNE 17 - Happy Father’s Day.

JUNE 21 - Bridge meeting at SNSYC 19:30 hrs. Everyone welcome! Guests encouraged.

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CPS Listserve --

...came across an interesting little blurb which I would like to share with
you and especially those who are in my category of computer know-how. Here it is:

An application was for employment
A program was a TV show
A cursor used profanity
A keyboard was a piano.
Compress was something you did to the garbage
Not something you did to a file
And if you unzipped anything in public
You'd be in jail for a while!
Log on was adding wood to the fire
Hard drive was a long trip on the road
A mouse pad was where a mouse lived
And a backup happened to your commode!
Cut- you did with a pocket knife
Paste you did with glue
A web was a spider's home
And a virus was the flu!
I guess I'll stick to my pad and paper
And the memory in my head
I hear nobody's been killed in a computer crash
But when it happens they wish they were dead!

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Training Department Quiz!


1.) Your eye level standing on your deck is 12 feet above sea level and you see the beam of a 100 foot high light house just appear above the horizon. How far away is it?

2.) What is a "slewed compass"?

3.) Why would one splice a permanent joint in a line as opposed to a reef knot or double sheet bend? Can you short splice two lines?

4.) Which weather feature would you least like to pass over you when boating, a "warm front" or a "cold front"?

5.) What is a "kellet" and how would you use it?

6.) How would you calculate an intermediate tide height at a given time, knowing the adjacent High and Low tide times and heights?

7.) You are travelling from Gowlland point to Skipjack Island, track 092º. Cruising speed is 14.4 knots and the tidal current is setting 240º at 3.0 knots. What will be the course to steer and the speed of advance?

Answers on Page XXXX

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Compass Rose Book Review!

I've just finished reading Gary Geddes', Sailing Home. Like the recent Kevin Patterson book, The Water In Between, it is more a philosophical treatise than a "mere" nautical account. Geddes, has been described by George Woodcock as Canada's best political poet. In search of remembered places and youthful memories, Geddes sails his 29 foot sailboat, Groais, up the inside passage. His observations of place in terms of natural and
man-made use and abuse are thoughtful. Geddes is a wonderful wordsmith, his descriptions of even the most mundane are evocative. Here's my favorite: "...I cut bait, trimming the ragged herring filets so they resembled Cubist replicas of smaller fish...." Having always been fascinated by the end result, I knew those little herring looked like something familiar. Geddes recollections of his mother, who died at an early age, and observations of his relationship with his children, ex wives and grand children seem to be a wise coming to terms with choices one makes in life and the resultant aftermath. Geddes isn't always reminiscing or self examining. He can be hilarious, includes some interesting, although often self-depreciating nautical "stuff" and a good selection of encounters with west coast characters. Sailing Home is published by Harper Collins. Signed copies
are available for $32.00.


New Releases: A new series of reprints, The Sailor's Classics, introduced by Jonathan Rabin and published by International Marine, include such titles as: Gypsy Moth Circles the World by Francis Chichester; The Saga of Cimba by Richard Maury and 40,000 Miles in a Canoe as well as The Sea Queen by John C. Voss. These hardbacks with particularly attractive covers sell for $31.95.

I'd like some feedback about the recent Sidney Boat Show. There seemed to be a lack of festive atmosphere this year - maybe it was the weather, but the whole thing seemed like a non-event. We did receive comments about the lack of something to do for families - the Vancouver Boat Show has events for children, the lack of a good Power Squadron Information Booth, and the lack of interesting old boats. Any feedback
relayed to us is going to be sent to the organizers!!!

Contributed by Ann Tighe.

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A man is as great as the dreams he dreams,

As great as the love he bears;

As great as the values he redeems,

And the happiness he shares

A man is as great as the thoughts he thinks,

As the worth he has attained;

As the fountains at which his spirit drinks

And the insight he has gained.

A man is as great as the truth he speaks,

As great as the help he gives,

As great as the destiny he seeks,

As great as the life he lives.

C.E. Flynn





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Happy Appy’s




A delicious and easy to make potatoes salad with beets to go with picnic hamburgers or barbecued favorites.


3 potatoes (boiled with skins, chilled, peeled and diced cold)

1 can of cubed beets

2 dill pickles (diced)

1 hard cooked egg (diced – optional)

1 apple (diced - optional)

Dressing: ½ cup of sour cream

½ tsp mustard with dill

¼ tsp of sugar

dash of pepper

1 tbsp of white vinegar

Dice all the main ingredients and place in a large bowl. Add the dressing and mix thoroughly. Cool in the refrigerator. The beet juice will be absorbed by the other ingredients to give the salad a fresh pink color mix again.

Place in a serving dish, garnishing with parsley, fresh dill

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Training Department Quiz Answers!


1.) 15.8 nautical miles. Calc from (1.17 multiplied by the square root of the eye height in feet) plus (1.17 multiplied by the square root of the light-house height in feet). If both heights are in metres, use 2.1 instead of 1.17 as multiplier. Piloting course, article 4.4.3

2.) A compass improperly aligned with the boat’s centre line will have a constant error in all directions. This is "slew". A slewed compass can never be properly adjusted for deviation. Piloting course, article 3.4.2

3.) A knot can reduce the tensile strength of a line by up to 50% (Boating course, article 7.7) whereas in a splice, the strength loss is much less, eg retains 85% to 95% line strength in a short splice. Piloting course, article 2.10 and includes splicing techniques.

4.) Precipitation and storms are usually more severe in a "cold front", with air potentially of greater moisture content. Air following a cold front is frequently turbulent, with gusty winds at the surface. Piloting course, article 9.5.2.

5.) A kellet is a heavy weight attached in the length of the anchor rode to reduce the angle of pull at the anchor. Although it is defined in the Glossary of the Boating course, its use does not appear anywhere in the text of section 22, "Anchors and Anchoring". Piloting course, article 12.2.3.

6.) At a suitable scale on graph paper, plot the adjacent High and Low tides times and heights, time on the x-axis and heights on the y-axis, join the two points with a straight line. At the quarter point on the line nearest the high tide draw a vertical line upward equal to a tenth of the tidal range and at the quarter point nearest the low tide draw a vertical line downward equal to a tenth of the tidal range. Connect the High and Low tide points through the ends of the vertical lines and the half way point on the initial line. This should produce a curve that looks like a half wave. The unknown tide height can be read off the graph curve for the intermediate time. Piloting course, figures 13.4 a & b and 13.5

7.) Sorry, this was a mean question unless one had taken Piloting or advanced courses. While solvable with vector diagrams and trigonometry is tedious, it is far easier to use the table in Fig 15.1 in the Piloting course manual. Incidentally the answer is true course to steer 086º and speed of advance 11.9 knots.

By now you will have fathomed (no pun intended) what I am up to. Yes, we are pushing our squadron’s Piloting course, instructed by Cliff Cunningham, starting 2002-01-09. If you have not got all 7 questions right, I would be delighted to sign you up. John Hudson STO Phone 655-3653, e-mail

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Anniversary of Tilikum’s historic voyage remembered

Victoria News Review - May 2001.

When a commemorative cairn was unveiled near the Turkey Head walkway in Oak Bay this past weekend, the gesture recalled an important piece of local history few people know anything about.

One-hundred years ago, a pair of adventurers set off from what is now the Oak Bay Marina in an attempt to circumnavigate the globe in a dugout canoe.

The Maritime Museum of British Columbia Society, in co-operation with the municipality of Oak Bay, have installed a stone marker and plaque overlooking the ocean directly south of the Oak Bay Marina in the 1200-block of beach Drive. In commemoration of the 100th anniversary of the departure of the Tilikum, the marker honors the courage of Capt. John Voss and First Mate Norman Luxton.

Maritime Museum executive director Yvonne Sharpe has described the Tilikum’s epic voyage as “ one of the greatest feats of small boat seamanship ever accomplished “.

The Maritime Museum in Victoria’s Bastion Square is coordinating a special spruced up exhibition on the Tilikum to mark the 100th anniversary. The exhibit is ongoing. The boat itself, which has been restored, is the centerpiece of the museum’s collection.

Volunteer’s have been repainting her, redoing the rigging and replacing the vessel’s handmade sails.

On first glance, the Tilikum looks very little like the kind of dugout canoe most people would imagine.

The boat is 38 feet long and triple-masted. It has a deck and a cabin, but the hull itself is now nearly 200 years old – carved out of a single, enormous piece of red cedar.

Sharpe referred to the Tilikum as “the real jewel of our collection and one of the main things we promote as a museum”.

The idea of creating a permanent reminder of the incredible trip at the point it all started from is vital for maintaining the memory and passing the story down to future generations.

“This is a way to bring the whole story back,” said Sharpe.

What a story it is , too. “The fact there’s this whole tradition of small boat, blue water, offshore sailing is inspiring to people”, said Sharpe.

“Doing all this without the technology we have today, in a boat that wasn’t designed for it, that’s amazing.”

Sailor Voss piloted the boat away from Turkey Head on May 20, 1901 and spent three years taking the Tillicum on a 40,000- mile odyssey that nearly ringed the earth.

The route took them across the Pacific Ocean via Samoa and Fiji to Australia and new Zealand. From there, the boat crossed the Indian Ocean to South Africa. It was even taken out of the water and transported by rail to Johannesburg to make a promotional appearance. From the southern tip of the Dark Continent, Voss sailed the Tilikum across the Atlantic Ocean to Brazil, then back across the northern part of that ocean to England.

Although he traveled enough miles, the route Voss chose did not enable him to cross all the meridians necessary to claim a global circumnavigation feat.

He and newspaperman Luxton planned the trip as a way to attract international attention, by feeding reports of their adventure to the media of the day as the canoe journey unfolded.

They found their dugout canoe lying abandoned on a beach on the east coast of Vancouver Island and named it the Tilikum , which is the Chinook word for “friendly”.

Ironically, the trip they took together was anything but friendly. Voss was known as a man who was difficult to get along with. The two locked horns so severely that at one point Voss locked Luxton in the cabin and sat with a gun on his lap, telling Luxton he’d better not show his face on deck.

Luxton abandoned the voyage after only six months. Three years and 11 other first mates later, voss arrived in England.

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Beacon Classifieds


24 ft. 1976 SeaRay Weekender Powerboat

GPS, VHF, Depth sounder & all required safety equipment

Bruce Anchor package, enclosed SeaLand head with macerator.

Excellent value, must be seen. $18,900.

Phone 656-5190 Gay & Bill Miller

1981 Campion Haida, Command Bridge, 24 ft.

Well equipped and maintained family cruiser.

Moored at West Port Marina

Telephone: 652-6381

Dave Stevens


Moon Phases

Wane: (Last Quarter) New:

June 13 June 21

Wax: (First Quarter) Full:

June 27 June 5

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1700 TO 1900 THE GAZEBO






For more information e-mail Bev Gerry at

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Membership News


DEV’S COURAGE is off and cruising again this summer. Jim and Marcia Peters had such a great expedition last year (to those who missed the article refer back to The Beacon dated Dec 2000—Jan 2001) that they are off and cruising again. This time to explore the inside passage, Ocean Falls area concentrating on the many isolated inlets up our Mainland coastal region. Jim was particularly looking forward to exploring and learning about the Native Settlements. Cruising up and through the Cape Caution area was anticipated with both excitement and apprehension as it has a

Reputation for being challenging. Oh they will have so many stories to share and memories to reflect on when they return in 3—4 months time. Safe Boating to the two of you and Thank-you for your enthusiastic encouragement!


OPPORTUNITY: Don’t wait for your ship to come in … swim out to it.

CHALLENGES: Anyone can hold the helm when the sea is calm.


CHANGE: If you’re not riding the wave of change you’ll find yourself

beneath it.

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Port Sidney Floating Boat Show


I would like to personally thank all the members who supported our squadron by working at the Port Sidney Floating Boat Show.

We had a total of 56 volunteers, with only 2 people doing double shifts. This was a truly great show of support. All but 2 people were set up via e-mail, which made things much easier.

A Huge Thank you to the following members!

Joyce Berry - Barb Bond - Ray Berry - Cathy Campbell -John Blomfield - Dick Cotton - Joan Clarke - Brian Dunic

Ken Clarke - Jim Forsyth - Nevio Corazza - Paul Haist - Cliff Cunningham - Rhonda Haist - Jim Dawson - Carolyn Hole

Stephen Denroche - John Hudson - Marjorie Denroche - Ernie Lalonde - George Eade - Jackie Levi - Warren Franklin

 Barry Levi - Richard Graham - Susan Lines - Marg Griffin - Gerritt Looman - Tom Harkness - Rene Jean-Richard

Gerry Hutchinson - Diana McBratney - Gail Jernslet - Kathy McDougall (2 shifts) - Lloyd Jernslet - Bill Miller

Ruth Jones - Bob Parkinson - Tom Kummerfield - Mo Robertson - Michael Litwin - Bruno Scarpazzo - Peter Payerl

 John Schippers - Heather Pepper - Carol Sidwell - Ray Scott - Ron Towshend - Dave Teece (2 shifts) - Nancy Vivian

Morris Thompson - Peter Vivian - George Winn - Peter Wolfe - Gurli Wolfe & me -  Gay Miller

Thank you for your time & efforts!

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The Graduation celebration was held on May 14th, with a large number (approx. 70) of members and grads attending.

An interesting video of the Berry’s & Clarke’s trip on the canals of England in 1997 was shown.

There is more to boating than going to Sidney Spit!

Our thanks go to both couples for their informative and humorous commentary.

We had a large percentage of graduates join our squadron, and so want to welcome all those who signed up.

If any member has a suggestion of a speaker for the squadron graduations, AGM, or other social functions we would appreciate his/her input.

Gay Miller

Ent./PR officer



A boat is called a She because there’s always a great deal of bustle about her--- because there’s usually a gang of men around her--- because she shows her topsides, hides her bottom, and when coming into port always heads for the buoys.

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The Beacon


Subject: Article from Ottawa Citizen

Would you want to work here ?!
Can you imagine working for a company that has a little more than
300 employees and has the following statistics:
30 have been accused of spousal abuse
9 have been arrested for fraud
14 have been accused of writing bad checks
95 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
4 have done time for assault
55 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
12 have been arrested on drug related charges
4 have been arrested for shop lifting
16 are currently defendants in lawsuits
62 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year
Can you guess which organization this is?
It is the 301 MPs in the Canadian Parliament

The same group that cranks out hundreds of new laws designed to keep
the rest of us in line!!!!!!!!!

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Akres, Glen
Akres, Richard A
Akres, Richard, Jnr
Anderson, Dennis
Bird, Carol
Brethour, Ian
Burns, Richard
Dukes, Ian
Dukes, Margaret
Favelle, Peter
Fitzgerald, Darcy
Fitzgerald, Wendy
Foster, Marge
Hodd, Ralph
Hole, Carolyn
Hultsch, Cindy E.
Hultsch, Dave
Kazanowski, Gerald
Kelbert, David E.
Kelbert, Erwin
Kerr, Carole
Kerr, Dave
MacConnachie, John
Malvet, Helene
Masson, Bruce
McDougal, Jim
McDougal, Marie
McEwan, John
McLean, Michael
Nanos, Jerry
Nanos, Lawrence

Obee, Nicole
Paul, Gunter
Philips, Don
Rainsford, Ross
Robins/Smith, Stacey
Thoene, Hermann
Truax, Bill
Truax, June
Van de Walle, Luc
Weeks, Guy
Weeks, Kathy

PILOTING COURSE (with Brentwood Bay Squadron)

Johnson, Sunny

Weigand, Sharon

Winn, George

ADVANCED PILOTING (with Victoria Squadron)

Blomfield, John

Teece, David




Campbell, Cathy

Clarke, Ken

Henderson, Dave

Henderson, Donna

Locke, Monty (Oak Bay Squadron)

McDougal, Kathy

Pillay, Pally

Scott, Ray

Townshend, Ron

Wilson, Paul (Victoria Squadron)





Nutt, Greg

Harper, Wendy

Hipfner, Larry

Hudson, John

Johnson, Bob

Johnson, Sunny

Kent, Marion

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We need a replacement EDITOR

What is an Editor? ——>

Someone who collects information from the Squadron and Bridge and gathers articles of boating interest. This is accumulated over the course of a month and put on the computer using the Publisher Program. The Beacon is pretty much an individual effort and the program is user friendly, leaving leeway for creativity and design. The time required is up to you, depending on the content and graphics of each issue.

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Subsequent to Bridge concurrence May 17th, the Training Department intends to provide the courses listed below. The locations of the courses are tentative as space has not been reserved or approved yet.

We also wish to solicit interest in other CPS courses. Assuming there is enough interest, we can determine if we have the resources to offer additional courses. For example, I've had a couple of enquiries for Seamanship - Sail.

Boating, PCOC & VHF Courses:


Registration Tues 01-09-11 Tues 02-01-08

Exam Tues 01-12-04 Tues 02-04-09 (13 weeks)

VHF exam Tues 01-12-11 Tues 02-04-16

Graduation Mon 02-01-14 Mon 02-05-13

Instructors Doug Mitchell and Ted Meadley

Proposed location Parkland School

Proposed cost $165 (other family member $125) = $50 non-refundable deposit to reserve a place, balance at registration

VHF $10 for CPS members or Boating student, $25 otherwise.

Max class size 31 fall, 50 spring

Piloting Course:

Registration Wed 02-01-09

Exam Wed 02-03-27 (12 weeks)

Instructor Cliff Cunningham

Proposed location S&NSYC

Proposed cost $90 = $40 non refundable deposit to reserve a place + $50 at registration

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Fundamentals of Weather:

Registration Wed 01-09-12

Exam Wed 01-11-07 (9 weeks)

Instructor Bob Richardson

Proposed location S&NSYC

Proposed cost $90 = $40 non refundable deposit to reserve a place + $50 at registration

Marine Maintenance:

Registration Mon 02-01-07

Exam Mon 02-03-11 (10 weeks)

Instructor Greg Nutt

Proposed location Parkland School

Proposed cost $90 = $40 non refundable deposit to reserve a place + $50 at registration Max class size 15

Interested members are asked to contact me early to reserve places on courses as some fill up fast. Members are also asked to pass on information about the Boating, PCOC and VHF courses to their non-member boating friends.

By fall, it will be 2½ years since this squadron offered its own Piloting course due to insufficient enrollments. Therefore, some members have taken it with other squadrons. During this time we have graduated 128 students from the Boating classes. I am hopeful that the Piloting course this session will be well attended, particularly by these recent graduates.

John C. Hudson
Squadron Training Officer


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Keep Us Informed

If you change your address, buy, sell or trade your boat please advise our membership officer so that our records can be kept up to date.

Membership Officer - Cathy Campbell

Phone - 656-5717

E-mail -

Beacon Boating Classifieds

(Contact Heather Pepper @ 656-8101 or @ for any classified questions)

Cleaning out the boathouse or basement? Found some nautical treasures that another boater can use. Take advantage of The Beacon’s economical advertising and call or e-mail your editor to place you FREE ad.

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The Beacon

Each year the Canadian Coast Guard responds to a significant number of calls, over 50% of which involve mechanical breakdowns.

KNOW YOUR VESSEL. Avoid mechanical breakdowns by keeping your vessel well tuned and by planning ahead.


Note: This is only a guideline!

Pre-Season Recommendations:

Ensure battery is fully-charged/holding charge.

Top up fluid levels.

Replace lower unit oil (if not performed during post-season service)

Inspect, clean, and replace spark plugs, if necessary.

Check and charge filters (fuel filter, water separation filter), if necessary.

Check all systems: electrical, furl, propulsion, and cooling.

Check wire and cable terminals for tightness, dirt, and corrosion.

Check all hoses/lines for leaks or cracks and replace, if necessary.

Inspect and clean flame arrestor with soap and water (gasoline inboard engines only).

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Membership News!

This month we would like to welcome (Robert Blanchard who has transferred to our Squadron from Pender Island and is looking forward to joining in on our summer cruising program. Theo Meijer has rejoined and had taken his boating course through Valley Squadron on the mainland.

Also we had the following members join at the Spring Graduation:

Ian Dukes

Margaret Dukes

Marge Foster

Ralph Hodd

John McEwan

Gunter Paul

Don Phillips

Hermann Thoene


The Squadron is facing a problem of lack of storage space for our collection of materials. We have several boxes of training aids and several boxes of archival material. We would like to find a place to store all of this. It needs to be a dry, heated area about the size of a small room. If anyone knows of such a place that can be rented for a nominal fee, or if anyone has a spare room in their house, please get in touch with Ken Reeves at 655-3602 as soon as possible.

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The Beacon

Just Belong?


The kind that would be missed,

Or are just contented,

That your name is on the list?

Do you attend the meeting,

And mingle with the crowd,

Or do you come to watch,

Then crab both long and loud?

Do you take an active part,

To help the Squadron along,

Or are you satisfied to be

The kind to “Just Belong’?

Do you ever give suggestions

When the Squadron looks kind of sick,

Or leave that up to just a few,

Then talk about the “clique”?

And when a program’s scheduled,

That means success , if done,

Do you put your shoulder to the wheel and work with everyone?

So attend the meeting regularly, and help with hand and heart,

Don’t just be a member, But take an active part.

Think this over, Member, Are we right or are we wrong?

Are you an active Member? Or do you “JUST BELONG”